Siresa Talesi
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Posted - 2007.11.02 00:14:00 -
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 Originally by: CCP Prism X
Originally by: Joss Sparq
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Since someone sold ISK to that character, the ISK was removed.
So you (CCP) won't differentiate between past and current character owners, okay.
Ofcourse not. If I were to steal AMDs newest CPU before they launched it, put it in my desktop at home and then sell that desktop computer to you.. you think IBM would lose their legal claim on the CPU? It's still stolen property and will be confiscated from you were they to discover you possessed it, no? We're reclaiming illegaly obtained goods, not bombing anyone. The OP wasn't penalized, the character he bought was taken down a peg to be equal with others i.e. his networth was put to where it should be.
Your analogy is flawed. The situation at hand is more like this: You steal an AMD processor (purchase ISK), put it in your desktop (character), then remove that processor, sell the desktop, and the new owner supplies his own processor (ISK). You are telling me now that the original owner of the stolen processor has a claim on the desktop owner's new processor? How does that make sense? You're not reclaiming illegally obtained goods, you're stealing legally obtained goods from an innocent party in the equivalent value of goods you had stolen from you, that is not justice by any definition.
Originally by: CCP Prism X
It sucks to buy stolen goods without knowing it and then have to deal with the authority knocking on your door, but you can't state the authority is being unfair. It would be unfair against the original victim if you were allowed to keep the goods. Justice is when given rules govern everybody regardless of their situation, anything else is favouritism.
Yes, it is the authority's responsibility to reclaim stolen goods (not just their equivalent), but it is also their responsibility to track down the original perpetrator of the crime and punish them for their deeds. In this situation, you have received the value of your lost goods and called it "case closed," with no care to pursue the matter any further, and you are negligent in your duty. This is not justice, it is thugery.
Originally by: CCP Prism X
Edited by: CCP Prism X on 31/10/2007 13:41:03
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When someone buys ISK the victim is the entire eve population. That's the crime here: ISK was bought, a characters value was unfairly adjusted, we fixed it.
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You maintain that we're being unfair to the OP by following the rules and regulations we set in place and is common knowledge to everyone. I maintain that we'd be unfair to everyone else if we didn't. Our opinions on just actions are obviously based on mighty different principles so there's no arguing this. Fact of the matter is that if we see ISK being bought we reverse the transaction for the sake of EVE. EOF.
The problem with your regulations is that they miss the target - you are targetting characters as perpetrators instead of those characters' owners! When a player buys ISK, they are not "unfairly adjusting" the value of the character, the character still has the same skills, etc., and the ISK is liquid and can be moved freely between characters. They are unfairly adjusting the value of the account! If this is how you pursue your justice, than you will never stop the ISK sellers becasue you never punish them, they just have to use disposable characters to make their transfers, and they have ensured their personal safety. It seems that the principle you base your "justice" on is the idea that regardless of who pays for it, the innocent or the guilty (but most often the innocent), as long as you get your money, everything is ok.
Your system is broken, your principles false. At best, you are punishing a fictional, nonexistant entity, a character in a game with no cognizance of its own, instead of the individual behind it. At worst, you penalize an innocent and paying customer. It is no wonder that the ISK sellers flourish!
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